At this point you just don’t click anything, what’s the problem?
It’s exactly the same as all those updates you all sit there staring at but not installing and wondering why your PC is being shit with 3 months of constant uptime.
C’est une décision logique, mais ça va causer des problèmes pour ceux qui ne peuvent pas mettre à jour. Espérons que les utilisateurs sont bien informés.
C’est une décision logique, mais ça va causer des problèmes pour ceux qui ne peuvent pas mettre à jour. Espérons que Microsoft propose de bonnes alternatives.
i hate microsoft just as much as the next guy but i feel like this is getting a little ridiculous. if you hate it that much just switch to linux or rip off the bandaid and upgrade to windows 11. i honestly don’t understand why everyone acts like the world will end if they do so.
I don’t hate it that much, my sharing is both ironic and to explain the facts, even if Windows 10’s system updates are finished, it will still have platform support for years, and also w10 is comfortable for me so I still want to stay with w10 but while Windows 10 can still receive security updates and is still usable, I don’t think it’s right for Microsoft to force everyone to upgrade. This is not just a situation that applies to me but to many other people and places. Also, I encountered problems many times in w11 24h2, I encountered problems such as sound, microphone, bootloop, recovery due to updates and it completely ruined my psychology, While the system is not yet fully ready, Microsoft is making it mandatory to update. I don’t prefer to use Linux because it is not suitable for daily use to me, and also stop recommending Linux for everyone, this is not suitable for everyone.
I can’t stand this sort of thing. I have numerous apps for my job that don’t work on windows 11. They are going to make my life harder than it needs to be.
I daily drive Linux for gaming and occasional productivity. I only run Solidworks in Windows (and only because keeping my install on a second drive was more convenient then trying to get a VM working). I use the terminal to run upgrades, and that’s about it. Even then the app store that comes with my distribution will do updates for me (but I choose to use the terminal). 99% of people will never need to use the terminal on Linux. Even during setup, the programs I’ve been using really didn’t need the terminal at all. There’s graphical tools for everything. And a lot of things are actually much easier then Windows as well. Installers typically don’t exist, and updates are one click and don’t require a restart (and are much faster than windows). Not to mention that I don’t have half of my RAM eaten up by background tasks.
My biggest gripe is all the E-Waste this will create, 6/7th gen intel and 1st gen ryzen, still very very capable hardware especially for just basic tasks, but they’re not, « officially supported, » and you have to use work arounds to install it which 1, who knows if Microsoft will purposely break windows 11 on the older hardware to force people to upgrade or 2, if/when they’ll patch all the easy work arounds, which this older hardware can run windows 11 just fine, and in this current economy, a lot of people can’t afford to drop hundreds of dollars on a new computer
bru they dont even know what theyr doing ; im using win10 on btrfs and their is no way win11 will have drivers for btrfs ; Upgrading would brick my windows
after 6 times they made everyone into updating some way or another ; You would think theyd understand that it would happend a 7th and a 8th time 😆 ; guess they never learn
Because I want to stay with 10 and it is still a usable OS for years, I don’t want to switch to 11 because it is still not for me, but Microsoft is forcing this and it isn’t right.
This is how EOL should work. Atom text editor was sunset in 2020 and you can’t download it straight from the website. If you go to GitHub and download anyway, you get the software exactly as it was: all the bugs and all the features. No bullying the user into downloading something else
That’s okay. M$ can go do one as far as I’m concerned. I’ve removed Windows 10 from two computers and moved them to Linux and upgraded another that wasn’t eligible to use Windows 11 using Rufus. One more to go, my desktop gaming PC. Next up is to use Google less. Tricky to use Amazon and Facebook less. Former is often cheap. Latter has friends and family there.
They already did this.
My parents got switched and then I got a confused call a while back. Since then my parents have been scared into new subscriptions etc by full screen ads. At this point they are praying on people who are less technically minded. I would say at least they aren’t operating ransomware, but they did just require literal payment for security for around 40% of their users… soooooo
Microsoft has power precisely because people are pussies who won’t switch and protect their data. Evil people would be powerless if the common man showed them even a glimpse of situational awareness
« The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it. » \~ Albert Einstein
This reminds me of the time Debian forced users to update from bookworm to trixie with tons of nagging pop-ups and dark patterns and then added more AI and telemetry and a bunch of apps you didn’t ask for and forced you to create an online account. Or am I remembering that wrong? Was that someone else?
So, I’m no MS fanboi. I’ve been Mac and unix/linux for home and work for a few decades now. I don’t run windows unless I really have to, and then I’ll fire up a win10 VM and shut it down asap. (And I haven’t done that in over a year… BUT, in defence of MS – they have no duty to keep windows 10 running for your benefit. They’re a company with (more than the usual amount of) limited resources and can say “we’re not supporting that system any more. Not life security patches.” and also “we have a new system to upgrade to that does have security patches” What they don’t have a right to is compel you to pay for a system upgrade, or even upgrade you forcibly – and then charge you. (I’d go so far as to say “shouldn’t upgrade you forcibly at all” but here we are.) if it’s a free upgrade to windows 11 then TBH I’m not sure of the morality of a forced upgrade and the warranty they’re promising. On the other hand – you are not required to continue using windows 10 or 11 at all. You can move to another OS like MacOS, or Linux, or… well anything else. But that will come at a personal cost to you in terms of effort, application changes, and potentially hardware replacement. But those are your choices. (I’ve seen and dealt with a lot of academics who have said “my application works fine on my windows server 2008 server – why should I change?” And my reply is: “The world is not a friendly place for an unpatched computer, and you’re now a security problem for everyone else around you. You can continue to run that server but it’ll be so cut off from the rest of the network it’ll be painful to use it for the purpose you have.” Sometimes they choose the pain – but always not for very long.)
well maybe you should have done that before it was too late but i die-graced ; ive tryed on the lastest update and they even disabled msconfig ; what a bunch of cockroaches at microsoft for real 💀
They tried already to do this for me in the summer. Just brought their fullscreen notification that « we will conveniently download the installation for you while you are working » or whatever, and the service just literally started to use network and disc resources, fans spinning etc. Service restarts 1min after force kill. Had to remove some register values for it to stop using my pc resources without my permission. God…
I mean I’ve only broken the windows update service, found some registry record of update orchestrator and deleted it, can’t remember where exactly. But in general, we can’t stop « Big Brother », we are doomed, robbed of our resources for ever.
ik this is a joke, but I’d like to say i dont think i can think of a single thing a standard user would need to open the terminal for, linux is the way
At this point you just don’t click anything, what’s the problem?
It’s exactly the same as all those updates you all sit there staring at but not installing and wondering why your PC is being shit with 3 months of constant uptime.
C’est une décision logique, mais ça va causer des problèmes pour ceux qui ne peuvent pas mettre à jour. Espérons que les utilisateurs sont bien informés.
C’est une décision logique, mais ça va causer des problèmes pour ceux qui ne peuvent pas mettre à jour. Espérons que Microsoft propose de bonnes alternatives.
even better ; fetch the microsoft update server ip ; and just firewall that shit up 🤣
It’s best to whitelist things over blacklisting specific IPs. They could have secret backdoors
i hate microsoft just as much as the next guy but i feel like this is getting a little ridiculous. if you hate it that much just switch to linux or rip off the bandaid and upgrade to windows 11. i honestly don’t understand why everyone acts like the world will end if they do so.
I don’t hate it that much, my sharing is both ironic and to explain the facts, even if Windows 10’s system updates are finished, it will still have platform support for years, and also w10 is comfortable for me so I still want to stay with w10 but while Windows 10 can still receive security updates and is still usable, I don’t think it’s right for Microsoft to force everyone to upgrade. This is not just a situation that applies to me but to many other people and places. Also, I encountered problems many times in w11 24h2, I encountered problems such as sound, microphone, bootloop, recovery due to updates and it completely ruined my psychology, While the system is not yet fully ready, Microsoft is making it mandatory to update. I don’t prefer to use Linux because it is not suitable for daily use to me, and also stop recommending Linux for everyone, this is not suitable for everyone.
Just disable TPM for the win!
At least on Mac and Linux it is optional
Using a Mac is entirely optional btw
Linux is also entirely optional btw. So is Windows
Everything in your life is optional, except dying, isn’t it?
And taxes.
Even that is optional to a point.
Guys; MacOS is just linux(BSD) ; truth is on Linux you can use darling; and on MacOS you can use Bash ; Yall points were optionals 🤣
I know that, I was taking the piss out of Linux
I can’t stand this sort of thing. I have numerous apps for my job that don’t work on windows 11. They are going to make my life harder than it needs to be.
« Enhanced security » 🤣🤣🤣
I daily drive Linux for gaming and occasional productivity. I only run Solidworks in Windows (and only because keeping my install on a second drive was more convenient then trying to get a VM working). I use the terminal to run upgrades, and that’s about it. Even then the app store that comes with my distribution will do updates for me (but I choose to use the terminal). 99% of people will never need to use the terminal on Linux. Even during setup, the programs I’ve been using really didn’t need the terminal at all. There’s graphical tools for everything. And a lot of things are actually much easier then Windows as well. Installers typically don’t exist, and updates are one click and don’t require a restart (and are much faster than windows). Not to mention that I don’t have half of my RAM eaten up by background tasks.
There’s an old saying “unix _is_ user friendly, it’s just picky about who its friends are…”
why do people hate win 11 so much?
Good question
lmao everyone is just hating for no reason other than trying to be cool lol
Try searching for issues with W11
My biggest gripe is all the E-Waste this will create, 6/7th gen intel and 1st gen ryzen, still very very capable hardware especially for just basic tasks, but they’re not, « officially supported, » and you have to use work arounds to install it which 1, who knows if Microsoft will purposely break windows 11 on the older hardware to force people to upgrade or 2, if/when they’ll patch all the easy work arounds, which this older hardware can run windows 11 just fine, and in this current economy, a lot of people can’t afford to drop hundreds of dollars on a new computer
Because it’s more controlling, more broken and more evil than any other Windows. Also, because that’s the name of this sub
If people want something that’s user friendly then they could use Linux Mint or Ubuntu
i mean… yeah, once support for Win 11 ends giving the user the stay with win 10 button is kinda a bad move from Microsoft from a security standpoint.
bru they dont even know what theyr doing ; im using win10 on btrfs and their is no way win11 will have drivers for btrfs ; Upgrading would brick my windows
Why are you acting like this is some mad conspiracy push? They did the same with 7 and you said you’d never use 8 or 10
after 6 times they made everyone into updating some way or another ; You would think theyd understand that it would happend a 7th and a 8th time 😆 ; guess they never learn
Still using 7 by the way, it’s mightly fine.
Because I want to stay with 10 and it is still a usable OS for years, I don’t want to switch to 11 because it is still not for me, but Microsoft is forcing this and it isn’t right.
Here’s a secret, Don’t click the « download and install » button
Yeah thanks🤣 I hope I don’t see it automatically loading when I don’t do anything like that.
Well, the OS is EOL, so you can’t expect it to work any particular way. That’s just how it is using an EOL product
This is how EOL should work. Atom text editor was sunset in 2020 and you can’t download it straight from the website. If you go to GitHub and download anyway, you get the software exactly as it was: all the bugs and all the features. No bullying the user into downloading something else
I can’t even upgrade as my processor (i7 7700k) is not compatible (Altho it does support TPM 2.0)
I switched to last nix mint a few months ago. Couldn’t be happier.
I\`m still on Windows 11 24H2
try disabling TPM in bios
Linux Mint is easier than Windows and my mother use it and prefer it, she’s 78 years old.
Quit the bitching . It’s just a fucking OS.
strange place to make that comment
It’s not an OS. It’s spyware and a very real security risk given the fact MS is sucking neo-Nazi cock around the clock since January
Idk Linux is user friendly if you use a common distro like Kubuntu or smth
kubuntu? 💀💀💀💀 shit you could’ve mentioned linux mint or something but wtf is that 😂
Ubuntu with KDE Yeah it’s Ubuntu but it works
That’s okay. M$ can go do one as far as I’m concerned. I’ve removed Windows 10 from two computers and moved them to Linux and upgraded another that wasn’t eligible to use Windows 11 using Rufus. One more to go, my desktop gaming PC. Next up is to use Google less. Tricky to use Amazon and Facebook less. Former is often cheap. Latter has friends and family there.
the day they will forcefully install win 11, I’m switching to Linux
You should switch now tbh. It always seems more difficult than it really is. Go with Zorin OS or Linux Mint if you try it out!
i already have an omarchy and a mint vm running 🙂
they won’t. they are selling ESU for a reason. it would make no sense to force upgrade users
They already did this.
My parents got switched and then I got a confused call a while back. Since then my parents have been scared into new subscriptions etc by full screen ads. At this point they are praying on people who are less technically minded. I would say at least they aren’t operating ransomware, but they did just require literal payment for security for around 40% of their users… soooooo
I got free ESU update, i fear that it’s gonna happen soon.
Free in exchange for your data And continued loyalty.
No doubt microsoft appreciates people saying that, instead of just switching to linux. We all knew this was coming.
Microsoft has power precisely because people are pussies who won’t switch and protect their data. Evil people would be powerless if the common man showed them even a glimpse of situational awareness
« The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it. » \~ Albert Einstein
This reminds me of the time Debian forced users to update from bookworm to trixie with tons of nagging pop-ups and dark patterns and then added more AI and telemetry and a bunch of apps you didn’t ask for and forced you to create an online account. Or am I remembering that wrong? Was that someone else?
that was ubuntu if i recall
the only reason i’m dependable on windows is, because of college work and few games
Which one games? Do you checked them on protondb?
Thats holding me back aswell. Games like Battlefield 6 and Valorant with their anticheat just dont work on Linux
Even if i would using Win10/11 – those rootkit anticheats are red flag to play games with it
Then the terminal is still available I use KDE and still use the terminal
Upgrade to Windows 7.
So, I’m no MS fanboi. I’ve been Mac and unix/linux for home and work for a few decades now. I don’t run windows unless I really have to, and then I’ll fire up a win10 VM and shut it down asap. (And I haven’t done that in over a year… BUT, in defence of MS – they have no duty to keep windows 10 running for your benefit. They’re a company with (more than the usual amount of) limited resources and can say “we’re not supporting that system any more. Not life security patches.” and also “we have a new system to upgrade to that does have security patches” What they don’t have a right to is compel you to pay for a system upgrade, or even upgrade you forcibly – and then charge you. (I’d go so far as to say “shouldn’t upgrade you forcibly at all” but here we are.) if it’s a free upgrade to windows 11 then TBH I’m not sure of the morality of a forced upgrade and the warranty they’re promising. On the other hand – you are not required to continue using windows 10 or 11 at all. You can move to another OS like MacOS, or Linux, or… well anything else. But that will come at a personal cost to you in terms of effort, application changes, and potentially hardware replacement. But those are your choices. (I’ve seen and dealt with a lot of academics who have said “my application works fine on my windows server 2008 server – why should I change?” And my reply is: “The world is not a friendly place for an unpatched computer, and you’re now a security problem for everyone else around you. You can continue to run that server but it’ll be so cut off from the rest of the network it’ll be painful to use it for the purpose you have.” Sometimes they choose the pain – but always not for very long.)
just disable windows update and wusa using msconfig.exe
Easy to say
well maybe you should have done that before it was too late but i die-graced ; ive tryed on the lastest update and they even disabled msconfig ; what a bunch of cockroaches at microsoft for real 💀
i really hope they dont auto install that
They tried already to do this for me in the summer. Just brought their fullscreen notification that « we will conveniently download the installation for you while you are working » or whatever, and the service just literally started to use network and disc resources, fans spinning etc. Service restarts 1min after force kill. Had to remove some register values for it to stop using my pc resources without my permission. God…
Time to check out other options 🙂
I solved that issue for me, but forced to do fresh install due to other issue, so ended up in fresh 10 ltsc.
How can Windows stop using PC resources without our permission? How did you do it?
I mean I’ve only broken the windows update service, found some registry record of update orchestrator and deleted it, can’t remember where exactly. But in general, we can’t stop « Big Brother », we are doomed, robbed of our resources for ever.
Yeah, fuck Windows. Personally I put my Laptop offline while waiting to migrate to Linux (I want to buy a new PC to install it).
Disable secure boot and TPM in the firmware of your computer so that Windows 11 thinks the computer doesn’t meet the system requirements
Way to go! Worked for me when they started begging to install win 11 some months ago.
Thanks for unlocking a new fear
Prepare your USB stick for installing Linux so that you can use the terminal to open a web browser
ik this is a joke, but I’d like to say i dont think i can think of a single thing a standard user would need to open the terminal for, linux is the way
I hope they not gonna auto install windows 11