Salut à tous, Je dois choisir entre deux modèles ASUS ROG Zephyrus en Europe et j’aimerais avoir votre avis : G14 (2024) – RTX 5070 Ti, AMD, 32 Go de RAM, 1 To SSD → 3000 € G16 (2024) – RTX 5090, Intel, 64 Go de RAM, 2 To SSD → 4000 € Je l’utiliserai à la fois pour les jeux et les films, donc la portabilité et les performances thermiques sont importantes, mais je m’intéresse aussi à la durabilité et à la valeur de revente. Est-ce que les 1000 € supplémentaires pour le 5090 valent le coup en termes de performance, d’avenir et d’expérience globale – ou le modèle avec le 5070 Ti est-il plus avantageux en termes de rapport qualité-prix ?
Je comprends bien le dilemme, mais j’aurais tendance à prendre le 5090 si le budget le permet. La différence en performance vaut peut-être le prix supplémentaire.
Le 5090 est plus puissant, mais le 5070 Ti est plus portable et moins cher. Si tu joues beaucoup, le 5090 vaut peut-être le prix, mais si tu veux un équilibre, le G14 est sympa.
$1515 for excellent condition G14 5070Ti, a good or fair condition was even cheaper than that. I snagged a G16 5080 excellent for $2229. I agree that the 5070TI is the sweet spot, but at 110W the 5080 is easily 15% more performance. The G16 boosts higher than the G14 to 120W. The thermals, higher wattage, larger display, and better speakers were enough to win me over here. Sure, it was an additional $700 (ouch), but I want a laptop that I will enjoy long-term.
Thanks Josh! I just wanted to say your videos were invaluable not only for my decision on the G16 but also on tweaking my laptop for way better CPU/GPU thermals. I very much appreciate your videos and the work you put in!
No problem, glad you enjoy the channel! Really appreciate that
Thanks! Do you know if there is any performance difference due to different cooling between the G16 and G14? As far as I could see the YouTube from Josh has a G16 5070 ti and not a G14.
The 5090 price is lowish or on par, the 5070TI price is high compared to the USA.
For G16:
You’re paying 25% more amount for 15-25% more gpu performance (which has the potential to be increased to 25-35% via a vbios swap for future proofing). A higher refresh rate and a larger screen but with lower PPI. For G14:
Higher PPI resolution but lower refresh rate and smaller screen size + a more efficient cpu
The G16 can achieve some pretty substantial uplift. with a couple users around here successfully flashing to a vBIOS that allows for 23,000-25,000 Timespy graphics (and that should translate directly to in game gains so long as the GPU doesn’t throttle while it’s running alongside the CPU). I would be extremely surprised to see the 5070 Ti G14 break 17,000 graphics in most cases, so that’d be nearly 150% the GPU performance if you flashed the 5090 G16 on the high end. The 12GB framebuffer on the 5070 Ti equipped G14 also might start feeling tight in the coming years (especially since the G14’s screen has more pixels than a 1440p ultrawide) compared to the 24GB framebuffer of the 5090 G16, so from a future-proofing/longevity standpoint that is also worth considering. However, the answer to your other question is that the 5070 Ti G14 is usually a better value for money (though, I’d argue it’s hard to call it that in your market given an additional 33% takes you from an upper mid-range offering to the halo product).
Thanks for sharing your insights! I have to say, this decision is a pretty tough one. Quick question about the VBIOS swap: is there any real risk of damaging the hardware by drawing more power than it was originally designed for?
As far as I’m aware the users who’ve done it haven’t experienced any failures, but there is always a risk in pushing beyond original limits. I’d personally say to not go balls to the wall 175w and just choose a modest 145w limit, that shouldn’t pose any risk to anything inside the device. Most users have had success in the 135w to 155w territory with the GPU, that’s the limit that got Josh (who commented elsewhere in this thread) 3000 extra points (about 15% more performance) over the stock 20,000. The G14 can also be vBIOS swapped to gain a little more performance, but it will be proportionally lower since it’s dies have fewer cores and since it’s cooling solution is a little less beefy (also per Josh).
Nop, it is not worth it.
Even if you really push the 5070ti you won’t need something over it, maybe the G16 if you are not comfortable with the heat of the G14 on a compact size or because it has a ssd less.