Salut mygoodcool, j’ai une question. Je suis actuellement sur un Intel i9-14900K, mais il commence sérieusement à me gonfler avec ses problèmes sans fin. Du coup, je prévoie de passer chez AMD.
Je vais associer le nouveau CPU à une carte mère **Gigabyte AORUS Master X870E** et j’ai déjà une **RTX 4090**. La grande question, c’est : dois-je opter pour le **Ryzen 7 9800X3D** ou pour le **Ryzen 9 9950X3D** ? **Voici mes usages principaux :** Mon utilisation principale, c’est le **gaming**.
Cela dit, je suis conscient que **les deux sont pratiquement identiques** pour les jeux, puisque le 9950X3D désactive certains cœurs ; il consomme juste un peu plus, mais ce n’est pas un problème. Je commence un nouveau poste d’**ingénieur logiciel** en septembre (en full télétravail).
* Je vais probablement utiliser des **outils/frameworks d’IA** assez souvent.
* Il y aura aussi de la compilation de code, etc. Je cherche aussi un bon investissement pour l’avenir, que ce soit pour le gaming ou l’IA. Enfin, je suis un adepte du **multitâche intensif** (YouTube, Twitch, Spotify, de multiples applis, et parfois plusieurs jeux ouverts en même temps).
Je cherche donc vos recommandations sur le CPU qui conviendrait le mieux en termes de **performances, de futurproofing et de qualité globale**, tout en tenant un peu compte de la différence de prix (environ 200 £). Merci d’avance 🙂
Hey, I am working as an intern on the same technologies and I often self host a lot of stuff, even LLM’s while playing games, and I have a 9700x. The fps barely drops and my cpu usage never even hit anything above 70%. I’d say 9800x3d is perfectly fine, just be careful with using PBO with x3d chips on certain motherboards. The only thing I’d recommend is going for 64G of ram instead of 32, as I find myself often filling up my 32G of ram.
I went from 13700k to 9950x3d, primarily for gaming. I was going to go 9800x3d and save a little money, but some of the non gaming benchmarks for the 9800x3d were worse than my 13700k. I didn’t want to feel like a sidegrade in non gaming related things (although I really doubt I would have noticed). You might notice it more coming from a 14900k. Another factor was my microcenter bundles I was comparing with the 9800 and 9950 were only maybe 150-200$ difference so I didn’t mind spending that much extra.
Je suis aussi sur un i9-14900K et je me pose les mêmes questions. Les 9800X3D et 9950X3D sont-ils vraiment meilleurs pour le gaming et l’IA ?
Je suis aussi sur un i9-14900K et je me pose les mêmes questions. Les 9800X3D et 9950X3D sont-ils vraiment meilleurs pour le gaming et l’IA?
Je suis aussi sur un i9-14900K et je me pose les mêmes questions. Les 9800X3D et 9950X3D sont-ils vraiment plus performants pour le gaming et l’IA ?
Je suis aussi sur un i9-14900K et je me pose les mêmes questions. Les 9800X3D et 9950X3D sont-ils vraiment meilleurs pour le gaming et l’IA ?
I’m running a 14900KS and doing a challenge of getting the maximum total Dyson power out of a cluster, currently sitting at 82TW. UPS has dropped to 3~4 and I had to give up the save. I’m considering upgrading to 9800x3d or 9950x3d. On my 14900 it uses 43% on non saturated cores when running that DSP save, but considering the massive amount of E cores on 14900, DSP seems like a pretty demanding multi core load. So I was hesitant on 9800x3d which is a downgrade on multi thread capability. It was so hard to find DSP benchmarks online 😔 I wish the game could be more popular
Your workload could use the 9950x3d. The question is can you afford it without issue?
Need to give a LOT more context 1. Windows or Linux dev?
2. What resolution/refresh rate – for gaming
3. What dev tools (many run on one or two cores rather than 16) I do engineering and programming for engineering. I run a 9950x (non x3d) and I game at 120-144hz/4k. In all honesty I don’t find any issues getting enough frames to play games well, and when I need the threads they’re there. Ram is going to be your bigger bottleneck. My advice, see if you can find a 6400MT/CL30 96gig kit to go with your processor and save the money on the x3d. edit: I had a 13900k, then a 7800x3d – the 9950x runs rings around the 7800x3d for compilation and slicing.
Thank you in advance! > so unless at least one of them is endgame Factorio, Dyson Sphere, Satisfactory or a similar one, you’re still better off with a 9800X3D I’m upgrading my CPU for playing endgame Dyson Sphere Program. Does this mean I should get 9950X3D? I can’t find any information online about this except this one single mygoodcool comment.
Since you actually plan on using the computer for productivity, get the 9950
Definitely go for the 9950x3d. 8 cores in 2025 for me aren’t practical anymore. Especially going from a 24 core to a 8 core cpu is wild.
The core parking works good on the 9950x3d, I almost have no issues so far.
Non X3D technically better at compilation, but since you only going to start, I doubt(heavily) that you would be able to load it to the point of seeing difference. Also do yourself a favor, use AI as complimentary(at max prototyping) tool, not as your working horse, who does everything for you. Or you will hit skill ceiling pretty soon and pretty hard, and it will strike you back, when you go for that promotion 😉
if you plan to use the rig for your new employment go with 9950x3d for the boost in productivity and if not 9800x3d 9800x3d has 8 cores w access to 3d v cache making it excellent for gaming based application and use case 9950x3d has 16 cores with 8 of such having access to the 3d v cache and 8 that do not the 8 the do are mostly used for games and such and the 8 that dont are utilized more when doing productivity based workloads alongside the 8 that do so yea basically is as i said if only gaming on it go 9800x3d if you plan to use it for your work aswell then definitely 9950x3d legit the same performance in games only difference in the 2 cpus is in productivity capabilities edit: sorry for lack of context which someone kindly alerted me to but i meant workloads that benefit from the extra cores on 9950x3d are video editing, 3d modelling etc
\> are utilized more when doing productivity based workloads What kind of « productivity based workloads » are you referring to? Sounds to me like you’re just citing some youtube video?
nah i mean if you edit videos or do 3d modelling if your an engineer then the extra cores help etc, sorry for the lack of context
I’ve done quite a lot of both, so how exactly would you benefit from a 9950X3D over a 9800X3D? For video editing, you benefit mostly from GPU acceleration, and nowadays it’s easy to get rather high quality preview in realtime, so not really an issue. And for transcoding, you will usually use GPU acceleration as well, unless you work for broadcast or the like (and work with stuff like RED RAW – for which again there are acceleration cards though …), at which point you would use fiber and render servers (I’ve done that in the past, helping in setups for TV Ad production and mastering of some cinema movies). For 3D modelling – blender also supports GPU acceleration, and when working with nodes, you either have no issues at all, or you did anything wrong (e.g. too many nodes with loops, at which point rendering might go into the minutes even for preview – but that’s usually a node setup issue). I’ve also worked with stuff like Maya back when macs just moved from PowerPC to Intel, and performance wasn’t ever really an issue, because here again: The final render would be done on servers, or you let it run while doing something else, or let it run overnight, and for preview you mostly use GPU acceleration or have enough with 8 cores. My takes, but I’m really curious what’s your experience on these, as you sound like you might have different / more / … experience on at least one of these?
to clarify i never said it was on a different level or outright destroyed the 9800x3d, i have a 9800x3d myself but then i dont render videos at any resolution nvm 4k where the 9950x3d would be a better fit so didnt see a need for 9950x3d i dont exactly have a use case example i just do my research on pc hardware and its capabilities compared to other released pc hardware and can tell you with certainty that if your rendering videos especially in 4k or doing work related tasks alongside gaming then those extra cores are going to benefit you, not amazingly but they do to an extent and that is kind of fact im not going back and forth since i never came here to argue or claim to be an expert, i just gave my honest opinion on which to go with depending on what OP plans to do 🤷♂️ plenty of benchmarks and results online to back that up too it may not win in every single test or usage case but it is more efficent at certain things than the 9800x3d
I have rendered quite a few videos in 4k using GPU acceleration. That’s why I asked if your advice is based on your own experience / knowledge, or on online benchmarks / videos. And yes, I know lots of benchmarks that show e.g. the 9950X3D beating the 9800X3D using handbreak for video conversion, or after effects in rendering – but any sane person would use GPU acceleration for that, so the comparison is more theoretical and not really relevant for real, professional usage. Don’t worry, it benefits everyone the more people chime in on a topic, so it’s all good. I still feel it’s important though to question things you see online, and if possible, add first person experience if anyone has any.
OP asked about cpus, i answered about cpus 🤷♂️
I have a 9800x3d. My previous workstation was 3900X. I game 5% of my free time, and do software work primarily. 9800x3d is efficient, that I suggest you forgo the extra cost, heat and power usage of 9950x3d. Unless you are running multiple VMs and need dedicated cores, or high core workloads, it’s not recommended. Basically, if you don’t know if you need all the cores, you’re probably fine with 8c/16t. If you know that you will run massive compilation tasks, concurrent VM workload or highly CPU bound tasks, get the 9950. Don’t listen to the « software engineer needs 9950x3d » crowd. 99% of the time, the CPUs will perform the same except in select tasks
\> . 99% of the time, the CPUs will perform the same except in select tasks This. Make sure to get enough memory and a good SSD with lots of random access IOPS, makes a way bigger difference in my experience for 99% of the tasks. (I’d actually say 100%, but no sane software dev ever says 100% I guess …)
No, they are not practically the same when the cores are parked for gaming. In fact, the cores aren’t even parked anymore. All the other crap that is going on (YouTube, twitch, windows junk, etc) uses those other 8 cores and I’m sick of people pretending they don’t exist. Yes, benchmarks show no difference, because people who run benchmarks are ONLY running the benchmark. Stick an ass load of background tasks on a 9800X3D and 9950X3D and run the benchmarks. Hell, for your usecase you could send the game that needs to least performance to the second CCD and run your main game on the 3D vcache CCD. I already run my non-primary displays on the iGPU too.