J’ai joué à GW2 de temps en temps depuis 2012. J’ai 24 personnages, la plupart d’entre eux équipés avec au moins des objets exotiques et un build suffisamment bon pour les raids. Récemment, après avoir terminé ce que je voulais faire sur Mount Balior, j’avais un peu le cafard – surtout à cause de la partie finale de l’extension récente qui était vraiment pénible.
Alors j’ai décidé de prendre une pause. Il y a quelques jours, le nouveau season et un gros update sont arrivés dans New World – une zone entièrement nouvelle, un niveau maximum plus élevé, des systèmes révisés, tout ce que vous voulez. Je vois des discussions partout sur internet : « Le jeu est bon maintenant !
». Alors j’ai téléchargé le jeu et je l’ai essayé à nouveau. J’avais déjà un personnage bien équipé au niveau précédent, donc je pensais que rattraper le retard ne serait pas trop difficile.
Et effectivement, j’ai pu immédiatement aller dans la nouvelle zone et commencer les quêtes. Après 15 heures environ, je suis… complètement dégoûté. Je n’ai même pas fini la quête principale.
Pour prévenir : je pense que les développeurs ont fait quelques bonnes choses. Les charmes sont une bonne idée pour personnaliser votre équipement. Pas de stats d’attributs sur l’équipement, c’est sympa.
L’expansion Angry Earth a rendu la base gratuite incroyable. Cependant, encore une fois, j’ai été confronté à des trucs que GW2 m’a habitué, mais qui sont un vrai calvaire dans NW. Et ils s’accumulent facilement.
Se mettre à niveau juste pour faire autre chose que des runs de coffres dans le monde ouvert est un supplice. L’interface de fabrication… existe. C’est la meilleure chose que je puisse dire à son sujet.
Le monde ouvert est extrêmement ennuyeux et vide. L’histoire et les quêtes sont en grande partie des simulateurs de marche, et… tellement simples qu’on aimerait presque l’histoire de GW2. Ce que je trouve assez mauvais, mais au moins ça me fait ressentir quelque chose d’autre que l’ennui existentiel.
Bref, je pourrais me plaindre davantage, mais le résumé est là – pour la troisième fois de ma vie, je me suis retrouvé dans une situation où jouer à NW me faisait rêver de jouer à GW2 à la place. Pas de haine envers les développeurs ou la communauté de NW, je pense qu’ils essaient de faire du bien au jeu (bien que je sois un peu énervé par la communauté – les activités de fin de jeu sont pleines de toxicité). Mais pour un jeu qui est sorti 9 ans après GW2, le manque de finition dans sa conception et la qualité de vie est… palpable.
Quoi qu’il en soit, cette expérience combinée aux bons blogs d’Anet ces derniers jours m’a fait reconsidérer l’achat de Visions of Eternity. À bientôt tous dans le jeu.
Honestly, I’m surprised NW is still running despite all the shit I hear about it.
Amazon is run by a guy who’s never been told « No » and the website itself makes enough money to subsidize anything forever, basically. NW is, ultimately, a game commissioned by a guy who’s so lame that he’s been quoted saying that he doesnt understand why people like music (not a genre, but as a whole) and was put together by a team that likely had no experience with MMO systems in an attempt by said lame guy to try his hand a cornering another market. Bezos won’t let it die until it succeeds or the entire market crashes.
In my humble opinion, the negative press of NW shutting down would probably cost Amazon more than just keeping the lights on – not just because of general stock value and their reputation in the IT industry, but also because they’re working on a LOTR MMO as well.
Who on earth would play a lotr mmo from amazon after 1) how much of a dumpster fire NW has been and 2) how much of a dumpster fire that awful show has been?
Well, there indeed are people who praise the show. You also had people swearing Concord would turn f2p after being shutdown because « it’s that good ». My point being – I’ve stopped underestimating what people will consume.
I only play NW because it’s available on console. If GW2 ever opened up to console they’d have a massive influx of new players on a 10+ year old game.
I played New World for a few dozen hours on release. A few days ago I heard they released a bunch of new stuff for free, so I downloaded the game and signed in. The first time I had a queue of 3800+. I tried a few hours later and it was 2700. I tried again today and it was 726. So I logged into GW2 to farm my homestead and do my dailies.
It’s a lot better than what it was a launch. I don’t play New World that often because there’s only so much time in the day. I will give them props that they worked hard to improve the game. Though there’s still somethings you still might not be able to get past.
Literally me every time the season drops and I get baited again
I feel this was about most MMOs lol Although, this week, it’s been WoW pushing me to NW. I’m just not a big fan of GW2’s Halloween stuff 🫣
Same, the only thing I’m fan in Halloween is the gold
I can’t stand new world neither their community. The game has a very bad combat, clunky and boring, so many bugs and exploits, the outfits look like clown clothes. The only thing I like is the open world, it’s beautiful. The community is also awful, specially the YouTubers. Every new patch comes with tons of game breaking bugs that you can’t progress your character like msq bugs, weapon bugs, high latency bugs, exploit bugs that weapons becomes so fast…and they take forever to fix it and a very long maintenance that the game stays offline for hours. Then on the next patch most bugs they’ve fixed on previous patch’s comes back lmao… Anyways bad game.
Same here, I tried New World again after this big update… I don’t know. New world feels stiff, clunky in comparison to GW2. Even the running animation of humans is done way better in gw2. GW2 is, once you can leave the vertical grind mindset behind, the best mmo experience in the market.
There’s some stuff that NW does pretty good. For example, I think it’s getting an unnecessary amount of hate for its combat/skill system, but I do understand why people dislike it. However, when something doesn’t work there tends to be a cascade of negative feedback loops, so you can easily end up in a situation like I was – where I do enjoy the combat, but things I want to engage in (being a tank) are straight up a horrendous experience. You sum it all up, and the good simply doesn’t cover for the bad. In any case, word on the street is Amazon will be reusing the same engine (Lumberyard) for LOTR mmo, so we’ll see if the clunkyness was due to New World implementation, or deeper due to the engine.
I agree that the combat is overall a personal preference thing, I didn’t click with it but I can see how one could like it fine. But to me what really was a big miss was how the end game was pretty boring and a lot of eco focus that was absolutely destroyed by its balance at launch. If you want TP simulator to be a thing in end game (and honestly why not?) then you absolutely have to watch that.
Oh brother, I have zero faith in Amazon in games. I think it’s a miracle that they didnt pull the plug on new world. I will be really happy to be wrong here tho.
There’s no way Amazon games does right. New world is abandonware and whatever garbage they released isn’t what is needed.
I think it is the opposite, it gets too much praise for its combat from many people. I recently started hearing about people saying its combat is garbage, I guess it is because it became relevant again so that MMO crowd starts to speak about/against the hype. The combat is really lacking but maybe it is more because of skill systems and skill trees being so basic and barebones. But I have to say the combat feels good for PvP. It feels awful for PvE.
I sort of agree, sort of disagree. The combat feels good in its fundamentals, but everything you’d expect to support its implementation is either missing or done shallowly – gear, passive trees, non-weapon skills, enemy design and behavior, etc. It’s pretty clear the whole thing was created by an inexperienced team who thought mere existence of action combat will carry the game, so they do anything deeper beyond bare minimum. And to their credit, they were *almost* right – because it shows that many people *do* crave action combat and are willing to turn a blind eye to everything else. If they’ve done just a little bit effort on top of that, I do believe it would have swayed a whole lot more people.
Idk, the Combat feels so simplified and boring, I guess it’s the MMO for people who don’t like MMOs. It’s like they tried to make a full action System like BDO but strip away 90% of it. And yeah the Animations are just whack. The sounds too, it literally sounds as plain and boring as it looks and plays like, very fitting! I actually like many other things about NW and would love to play it casually on the side, but I just can’t get over the Combat
I really wanted New World to be good. My character was an old granny with a shotgun and I still love her. But like you said, there was a lot to be desired.
I love both these games ! They’re both amazing in their own ways
Agreed! I play both at different times and for different reasons.
To be fair to New World, the mining rocks and cutting trees animation and sound design is great.
I play New World because it has official Controller support. I’d be playing Guild Wars 2 instead if it had the same.
I’m just in a really awkward position because I actually am enjoying New World but in the back of my mind, I’m thinking about running mad kings labyrinth for hours on end and thinking about leveling a power chronomancer. It sucks, it’s weird and it actually causes me to play neither, sometimes.
Nothing will ever pull me off GW2 (except probably GW3), but I don’t expect anything to. I just wanted to enjoy New World. It’s pretty, I like the gathering and creating, but fuuccccccckkkkkk that combat is boring. And it doesn’t help that the skill trees are even worse with barely any nodes to choose from and *all of them* being the most basic bullshit ever. I’ve tried like 10 times now since launch to get into it. I always end up chopping trees and fishing for a bit, but after a few levels of figuring I peace out.
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I was interested with New World for the PvP. But when I saw it was persistent ownership of zones for guilds, the writing was on the wall – this game is going to fail HARD because a few guilds are soon going to dominate and no one can do anything after a while, large scale PvP will come to a halt. So I never even bothered starting it. And sure enough soon after release when one read the forums… Saw the same thing for the PvP in Archeage. That kind of design is just garbage.
In my head I can see how you’d make it work; you have an NPC faction that targets based on strength and temporarily allies with weaker guilds automatically (and could be manually tuned by devs if anyone got out of hand), providing an additional level of co-op PvE to PvP in the defense. You could even implement something like the GW1 henchman system that scales inversely to skip the server-side AI and allow small guilds to participate in epic battles while every player feels like a squadron leader. Without some kind of resistive force as a check against large guilds, it’s obvious it’d just be a clustershow.
i wish new world had competent devs. the game is actually a lot of fun but man ags couldnt design a game of snake without it being bugged
I like NW, I like WoW, but honestly since getting into GW2 a few months ago I can’t stick to other MMOs. It respects your time, it’s fun, I can play when and however I want with no pressure to do anything. I’m at the age where my friends have moved all over the place (including me), are doing their own thing, some have kids, some are in sociable. Social events are Xmas, weddings, funerals and the odd birthday meal. MMO’s have become the closest thing I have to a social life
What should I say, GW2 is simply a damn good game after all and just feels like home
This is me thinking about trying Legion Remix. Trying to get back to wow (I love the world building), but I can’t stand seasonal shit
Legion Remix really isn’t like playing retail WoW. It’s a power fantasy set within WoW. If you have $15 to spare I suggest just hitting it up to mess around. You can still experience the Legion story which is the best storyline WoW has had imo. If you’re someone who plays WoW or hasn’t in years it’s a way to level up a bunch of characters max level fast and collect skins.